Eggheads: RE: Strange questions from a N00B

[Will Buckner]

I think he's using Eggdrop to control the SDBot kind of stuff, not for the 
actual attacking. But, yes, this kind of stuff does hurt Eggdrop. The only 
reason that I did not say all of this myself earlier is because it is an 
academic thing, and I don't think any harm is meant.

If you are going to use Eggdrop for this, please do the community a favor by 
not releasing your scripts. Derek is right though; there are probably much 
much better suited tools for this purpose. Using a tool specifically designed 
for DDoS / etc. would probably bring a lot more academic value to your paper 
anyway, as it would show how the flooders are really doing things.

Will
Derek Kuliński wrote:
> Hello Jeeves,
> 
> Monday, August 28, 2006, 1:01:34 AM, you wrote:
> 
>> Right now, just how easy it is to employ a simple piece of software to
>> command a larger set of computers.  I'm going to use a dial up account from
>> my pocket PC (pocket PC IRC client and Bluetooth to my cell) to show how
>> easy it is to flood an IP from a low bandwidth connection.  I'll make sure I
>> get full permission of the IT department and the dean of the college before
>> I do it.  I will only need to DDoS for a few seconds to prove my point.
> 
> Emmm... You seem to do something that we really don't want Eggdrop to
> be associated with, and I don't think anyone here condemns that.
> 
> In fact you're hurting Eggdrop developers, who put their free time in
> developing this very useful program, just to be labeled by clueless
> people as abusers.
> 
> Eggdrop was never meant to be used for attacking other computers, it
> doesn't even come with anything that can be used for that purpose.
> 
> Eggdrop is scriptable, and that's a huge advantage, because you can
> make it do almost anything. Unfortunately, you can also write Tcl
> script, that will make Eggdrop attack other computers, but you could
> code a stand alone script that does that without even needing Eggdrop.
> 
> Here's more about eggdrop:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggdrop
> 
> I think SDBot is better choice for your paper (since it was actually
> made for that use, is also very popular threat and still seem to be
> used.).
>